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GOJHL and their low standards

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So, Lasalle beat Chatham on February 26 but that result has not been posted on the GOJHL site.

Is there not anybody in the league executive or the teams involved that can step up and get game score reported?

It makes the league look very bush, its embarrassing!
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Teams input game scores and data through Pointstreak on their own. The data is then taken through the system and automatically put onto the GOJ website.

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It's because, for whatever reason, on Feb 26 when the game started, it logged in as a regular season game. If you go look at Pointstreak for Feb 26, there are 2 games for LaSalle and Chatham, 1 is a playoff that was never started and the finished game is the regular season. So according to Pointstreak, Game 1 was never played which is why they have the series as 3 1 Chatham. Since the stats on the league website are pulled in from PS, that's why it's wrong. The fact that it's been a week and nobody has bothered to fix it is beyond me.
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Here's the facts!

It's costly to run a junior hockey team. MOST GOJ teams try to keep costs low for players and rely more on sponsors, gates, etc. to run their programs at break even. Money is not made in this world. Because of this, teams rely on a lot of volunteers for things like scorekeeping, game day operations, marketing, etc. It's hard enough to find a few volunteers to do the have-to stuff, much less the luxuries. Sometimes this leads to less than ideal things like this happening, lack of marketing, etc. This isn't the OJHL, CCHL, etc. who charge 8-10K per player, plus more for their new equipment deal, and can do so as they are "Junior A". The GOJ can't, otherwise they would have next to no recruiting power against the other leagues and would end up folding.

So, if people think their are low standards, and things that need to be fixed.... VOLUNTEER. Help out where you can. Or soon we will see the league we love die.
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ILuvHackey wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:48 pm Here's the facts!

It's costly to run a junior hockey team. MOST GOJ teams try to keep costs low for players and rely more on sponsors, gates, etc. to run their programs at break even. Money is not made in this world. Because of this, teams rely on a lot of volunteers for things like scorekeeping, game day operations, marketing, etc. It's hard enough to find a few volunteers to do the have-to stuff, much less the luxuries. Sometimes this leads to less than ideal things like this happening, lack of marketing, etc. This isn't the OJHL, CCHL, etc. who charge 8-10K per player, plus more for their new equipment deal, and can do so as they are "Junior A". The GOJ can't, otherwise they would have next to no recruiting power against the other leagues and would end up folding.

So, if people think their are low standards, and things that need to be fixed.... VOLUNTEER. Help out where you can. Or soon we will see the league we love die.
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To fix this, which they have had over a week to do, it would take one person a few minutes and the cost behind it would be zero, it wouldn't be difficult.

I can't imagine any league in any sport that I follow where this would be happening.
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LaSalle ownership focus more on running an OHL team than running a mediocre junior B franchise
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I might be working on an article of things the league should work on, so this topic is the perfect time to ask this question.

What are some things you guys would like to see the league do a better job of? Do you have any suggestions or new ideas on what they're doing now?
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Discipline to be the same for all teams. Leamington goes over their USA import number and all they get is a fine. They should loose e very game they used an illegal player. London in the playoffs uses an AP against Sarnia who was AP'd with Brantford, another issue that was not even penalized.
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Hey they fixed it!

Is it possible this site/thread shamed them into it?
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Well, after 15 seasons, I hear that Pointstreak is on the way out.

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RocketGirl wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:53 am Well, after 15 seasons, I hear that Pointstreak is on the way out.

To be replaced with what?
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Professor wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:31 pm Discipline to be the same for all teams. Leamington goes over their USA import number and all they get is a fine. They should loose e very game they used an illegal player. London in the playoffs uses an AP against Sarnia who was AP'd with Brantford, another issue that was not even penalized.
Who did London use that AP’d with Brantford?
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Professor wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:31 pm Discipline to be the same for all teams. Leamington goes over their USA import number and all they get is a fine. They should loose e very game they used an illegal player. London in the playoffs uses an AP against Sarnia who was AP'd with Brantford, another issue that was not even penalized.
Roobroeck Is the only AP that played for London in the playoffs so far and he AP’d with them during the reg season as well
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Roobroeck was an AP for Brantford first. London cannot AP a player that was already on a AP card
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Professor wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:03 am Roobroeck was an AP for Brantford first. London cannot AP a player that was already on a AP card
He’s not on brantfords roster throughout the season
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Professor wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:03 am Roobroeck was an AP for Brantford first. London cannot AP a player that was already on a AP card
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FormerTrainer wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:35 pm
Professor wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:03 am Roobroeck was an AP for Brantford first. London cannot AP a player that was already on a AP card
There’s the AP roster during the season
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Professor wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:03 am Roobroeck was an AP for Brantford first. London cannot AP a player that was already on a AP card
He was an AP for the Brantford 99ers of the OJHL which is a different league...I believe you can AP for both
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Here's your facts on the situation:

London Ap’d  Roobroeck  on Sept 12, he did not get Ap’d on Brantford roster until Oct.  London did nothing wrong, he is allowed to play for London. He has been marked ineligible on the Brantford HCR.
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RocketGirl wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:06 pm Here's your facts on the situation:

London Ap’d  Roobroeck  on Sept 12, he did not get Ap’d on Brantford roster until Oct.  London did nothing wrong, he is allowed to play for London. He has been marked ineligible on the Brantford HCR.
I don’t think he ever AP’d with Brantford jr. b at all
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Back to the original thread of why the LaSalle-Chatham first playoff game was not entered properly and fixed as soon as some people would have liked. First, the LaSalle PS score keeper used the drop down imput box to indicate the tyoe of game and marked it as a regular season game instead of a playoff game. That is what initially created the problem. Apparently afterward the stats people encountered PS problems which would not allow that finalized game to be re-entered as a playoff game. I can only imagine that much of the work had to done annually to reverse things - which still should not have taken overly long. A that point the PS people had to help fix the problem and it took one week to straighten the mess.
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RecKing wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:59 pm Back to the original thread of why the LaSalle-Chatham first playoff game was not entered properly and fixed as soon as some people would have liked. First, the LaSalle PS score keeper used the drop down imput box to indicate the tyoe of game and marked it as a regular season game instead of a playoff game. That is what initially created the problem. Apparently afterward the stats people encountered PS problems which would not allow that finalized game to be re-entered as a playoff game. I can only imagine that much of the work had to done annually to reverse things - which still should not have taken overly long. A that point the PS people had to help fix the problem and it took one week to straighten the mess.
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