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OHA ATTENDANCE FIGURES

Post by Marcie » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:51 pm

Here are the top 10 teams attendance-wise last season among all OHA Junior teams including Allan Cup Hockey (ACH), Jr A, Jr B and Jr C.

1. Sarnia GOJHL 1,210
2. Brantford ACH 1,010
3. Stratford GOJHL 960
4. Chatham GOJHL 716
5. Leamington GOJHL 712
6. Essex 73's PJHL 595
7. St. Thomas GOJHL 565
8. LaSalle GOJHL 548
9. Trenton OJHL 545
10. London GOJHL 532




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Post by Hockeylover321 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:53 pm

Where is Listowel? Did the early season games in the old rink pull them down because they had incredible attendance in the new rink.......and I don't buy Stratford's #'s. I was at some playoff games there and the place was only half full.

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Post by Love our game » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:14 pm

Does "attendance" include both teams, all players, coaches, staff, ticket booth guy, Zamboni driver, etc? Some Buffalo games had maybe 10-12 people in the stands/building and they would record 59 in attendance?

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Post by Marcie » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:22 pm

Listowel averaged 472 in the regular season (3rd best in the MW - Elmira had 497) and 976 in the playoffs. Teams do vary on how they do attendance figures. Some just go by ticket sales, other include everyone in the rink, including those who sign in with a pass, volunteers, staff, etc.

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Post by Hockeylover321 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:33 pm

Interesting. I daresay Listowel's numbers will go up next season when they are in the new rink for the entire year.

Obviously another thing the GOJHL has no standardization on.

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Post by coachFloyd » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:55 am

numbers include seasons tickets/flex passes sold
not actual attendance at games

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Post by coachFloyd » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:03 am

just to clarify

teams include those tickets sold on top of paid attendance at the door

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Post by Undertaker » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:31 am

It should also be noted that 7 of the top 10 teams are from the GOJHL including 4 of the top 5. Yet the OHA in its wisdom has until now fought against Jr A hockey west of the GTA. Also of interest is that there is only 1 team that has this volume of support that is not west of the GTA.

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Post by cchlounger » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:53 pm

Since I'm an OJ guy, mostly through geography, I can assure all of you that most OJHL teams fudge attendance figures considerably.

Some teams are worse than others and it's a bit of a running joke.

Consistently the top attendance centres in the OJ are Wellington, Oakville, Cobourg, Kingston and Trenton.

Until recent years, Trenton was never a place that recorded high attendance figures. The Hawks are also one of those clubs that is well known to pump up their attendance average consistently over the season.

Lots of times it was recorded at 600 fans when in reality it wasn't any more than 300.

Truly, the best attendance average starts and ends in Wellington. This is just fact and has been for over 20 seasons

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Post by Marcie » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:22 pm

The Brantford Senior A team has the second best attendance figures. How will a new Jr A team affect their draw? Can the city support both?

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Post by Love our game » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:44 pm

I think the 99er's Jr A attendance will be very much the same as the previous 99er's Jr B years! Unless of course they would start winning alot more games which usually starts attracting more fans.

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Post by cchlounger » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:18 pm

Anybody that's expecting to see a fine Jr. A product out of Brantford this season better think again.

The former Milton franchise has been putrid for years and under the same current ownership as today (DD) the team won a grand total of something like four games last season.

When an owner who doesn't know the game or the 'A' product declares himself the GM, you know a horrible product is quick to follow.

Expect a high end of no more than 15 wins this season, and that's probably being generous.

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Post by flyers2011 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:47 am

some of those numbers are hugely exaggerated by season and sponser tickets, Some games ive been to in Sarnia and there is less then 400 people at the game and they announce over 1,000. Essex is the same way in Junior C.
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Post by Marcie » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:16 pm

Sometimes teams forget to input their attendance for the game and suddenly a zero pulls their average way down.

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Post by brad 36 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:04 pm

flyers2011 wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:47 am
some of those numbers are hugely exaggerated by season and sponser tickets, Some games ive been to in Sarnia and there is less then 400 people at the game and they announce over 1,000. Essex is the same way in Junior C.
I agree with the Sarnia thing however I know Chatham numbers do not include staff members as staff only counts what comes thru the door after 6 when the box office opens and all staff is there prior to that time
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Post by Blades » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:17 pm

As has been said another time. the Legionnaires attendance number include season ticket holders as well as those who paid to get in or signed the book. Staff and volunteers are not included in the attendance numbers in Sarnia. Just wanted to clear things up in case there was some misunderstanding.
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Post by flyers2011 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:27 am

Lasalle is another one that has inflated numbers but not as bad as Sarnia, Chatham always gets good crowds. I wish all teams would just count who is there in attendance. In Essex they count season ticket holders twice and sponser tickets so you cant go by their numbers. Some night they are lucky to get 200 people in the seats.
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Post by RocketGirl » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:54 am

It's the great attendance debate that will never be resolved.
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Post by Dr. Pepper » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:43 am

RocketGirl wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:54 am
It's the great attendance debate that will never be resolved.
Not much to debate really !. "Attendance" means exactly that, people that "attend" a function or event.
When I was in school they would take "attendance" every day, if you were not there you were not marked as "in attendance", a pupil would not be marked as "attended" simply because they were enrolled in school

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Post by RocketGirl » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:14 am

But is it paid attendance or actual attendance? That's the debate.

A lot of teams start with their season's ticket sales and then add in the additional paid for that game, then the passes that sign in and get in for free.

Unless they have a specific ticket for each game in their season tickets, it's hard to count who is actually there.
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Post by coachFloyd » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:31 am

RocketGirl wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:14 am
But is it paid attendance or actual attendance? That's the debate.

A lot of teams start with their season's ticket sales and then add in the additional paid for that game, then the passes that sign in and get in for free.

Unless they have a specific ticket for each game in their season tickets, it's hard to count who is actually there.
Seasons tickets are hard to account for...flex passes are a lot easier to track

Paid attendance is good for the club...actual attendance is good for the sport

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Post by RocketGirl » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:48 pm

I agree Coach. The flex pass is actually a good idea. Make it the same price, but then if you're not able to make a game, you can save it for next time and bring a friend, or you give your ticket to a buddy. It shouldn't matter to the team because they've already received payment for the game, so why should they care who actually uses it. And then you can properly track the attendance at the game.
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Post by Undertaker » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:06 pm

Here is a question for you both,

Do you think HockeyTV broadcasting all games has had any effect on game attendance?

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Post by RocketGirl » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:40 pm

Probably, same reason why I don't like Rogers broadcasting London's games live weekly. I prefer to be there live, but there's othters that watch it any way they can.
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Post by Love our game » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:35 am

HockeyTV broadcasting all games has definitely had an impact on game attendance. As much as watching it live can never be replaced in terms of the sounds, feel and the live action. Scouts and even parents will settle in their own comfy living room and watch it that way ( Sometime watch 3 games at once ). No roads or traffic to contend with, cheaper on gas, live updates, replays, pause available....etc. Sucks for the players but that is the sign of our "media" times.

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Post by coachFloyd » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:59 am

I heard Buffalo led the league in on-line viewing - mileage plus border crossing made it very appealing to parents/fans

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Post by RocketGirl » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:34 pm

That'll be justification to keep them, right?
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Post by RagingBS » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:58 pm

coachFloyd wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:59 am
I heard Buffalo led the league in on-line viewing - mileage plus border crossing made it very appealing to parents/fans
The great thing about watching a game from Buffalo on HockeyTV is that you can easily change the channel to a better game after the first 5 minutes or 5 goals against, whichever comes first.

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Post by Marcie » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:38 pm

Buffalo does a good job on their broadcasts. They have good camera position and a fellow doing play by play. I appreciate their efforts.

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Post by Love our game » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:26 pm

I watched some of Buffalo's games last year just for the that exact reason! The Broadcasting was "great"! I would have to also send out a congrats to Ancasters Broadcaster(s) as well, very energetic, keep you on your toes and informative!

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