SUTHERLAND CUP FINAL: Caledonia(1st, GHL) vs London(2nd, West) Predictions & Playoff Thread

[Cali vairs!]

Hey cpt I hope you have fun waving your flag at the fair buddy. Be careful what you wish for

[Caledonia Fan]

The game was only competitive for the first 10 mins of the first.
Caledonia found there legs. London ran out of gas.

http://www.lfpress.com/2016/04/28/caled ... n-game-one

[GoWest]

I especially liked the way they celebrated the 9th goal like they had just won the Stanley Cup.

Class act...

[Port hockey1]

I especially liked the way they celebrated the 9th goal like they had just won the Stanley Cup.

Class act...

After reading all the garbage on here throughout the playoffs... I don't blame them. Maybe if London played some hockey instead of having the three Musketeers running around like thugs, there wouldn't have been 9 goals. And when you have kids running Caledonia's top players, aiming for the head... I can't blame them!!!

Waterloo held Caledonia to 27 shots in one of their games, St.Catharines gave them a few close games... Guess the West is just watered down...

Hopefully London can play better than the display they put on tonight.

[Port hockey1]

Hey cpt I hope you have fun waving your flag at the fair buddy. Be careful what you wish for

He's busy digging both feet out of his mouth. So much for that 'strong' London defense.

This should be another short series if tonight was any indication. Too bad for anyone that was expecting a competitive or exciting series.

Yup... Too bad London has to run the top players on the other team. Maybe if they play some actual hockey, they'll have a fighting chance. Gotta love Harris hanging his team out to dry like that.

[Port hockey1]

This is the guy who runs the OJHL Forum's take on the game tonight. He seems to know his stuff.

Ron
(Login fillibuster)
Re: Let's get physical!No score for this post April 28 2016, 10:58 PM

Wild and woolly is the norm in Caledonia and tonight was no exception as the Pro-Fit Corvairs destroyed the London Nationals 9-3. It was a close game for thirteen plus minutes with the visitors coming out skating and hitting hard but three goals in a span of less than two minutes late in the first period turned the tide to stay in favour of the home side.

Leading scorer Kyle Robinson scooted in free while playing shorthanded to put the Nationals one up at 6.29 and the clubs traded chances and hits until Tyler Hill's close in wrist shot tied things up at 13.26. Two more followed in quick succession and on the second Caledonia goal it was Hill again storming down the left side feeding Mitchell Fitzmorris in front and then Corey Pawley tipped one in right on the edge of the crease and before you could say Kyle Robinson it's 3-1. The Corvairs would add one more with fifteen seconds left in the period as Fitzmorris and Todd Ratchford broke in free and the big blueliner finished it off. The London players left the ice wondering what had hit them, down 4-1.

The second period was pretty much one way traffic with the Nationals managing only three shots on Mark Sinclair but the only goal would come from Blake Luscombe with just over three minutes gone and it was a weird one as he shot the puck in, scooted over to the left side picked up his own pass, whipped around and from a bad angle beat Connor Hughes. Two assists were added after the fact to the originally announced 'unassisted' goal. Late in the period London lost defenceman Callum Ruddock on a checking-from-behind call. 5-1 after two to the defending champs.

The Nationals really got 'behind the eight ball' quickly in the third as another blueliner, this time Sam Harris took exception, quite rightly, to being double teamed by two Corvairs with their sticks up behind his own net. Unfortunately for his team he was assessed two for high-sticking, two for roughing plus instigator and aggressor penalties as he sucker-punched Corey Pawley. The home side got off Scot-free in the scuffle except for a two minute minor to Matt McCartney. Luscombe got his second on the resulting powerplay but then it seemed that the officials were intent to make calls on the home side if they as much as looked sideways at the opposition and the powerplay was pretty much negated and Alex Cimino managed to pull one back for the Nationals with a soft long shot. Chadd Bauman made it 7-2 Caledonia as he split the defence while playing four on four. Two assists were added after the fact. That would be it for Hughes as Zack Weir replaced him in the London net. Jake Brown was all alone and scored on Weir's short side on a powerplay as the ice was beginning to look tilted. The Corvairs lost focus soon after allowing a goal by Kevin Madden on a powerplay but they would score the last one on a delayed penalty with a goal from Fitzmorris who was offered little opposition from a badly beaten side. Final 9-3 Caledonia.

Luscombe, Fitzmorris and Matt Hore (all assists) ended the night with four points but once again it did not seem to matter too much what line was on the ice for the side as they wore down the opposition with their aggressive play whereas the Nationals tried to do the same thing but it backfired on them.

Based on this game number one it would be difficult to predict anything but another four-game sweep for this talented assemblage of almost all veteran players.

[flyers2011]

Not surprised by the score. If Caledonia wins Game 2 very likley will be a sweep.

[GoWest]

Port, you really do need to lay off the ganja, you're delusional.

To try and say there's ever any reason for that lack of class is just stupid.

There's no doubt that Caledonia is going to win this series, probably 4 straight, but let's show a little integrity in doing so.

[jfvoll]

Not surprised by the score. If Caledonia wins Game 2 very likley will be a sweep.

I am, considering the most Waterloo let in was 6.

[ILuvHackey]

If that's how you respond to facts, your opinion isn't really that valid. The list of players is on another thread. Find a team that's developed more than them. Otherwise, back to your childish ways of deflecting the conversation.

Except there are NO Facts that you put. Half the time your numbers are wrong, and you've never compared Caledonia vs anyone else.

As a Midwest fan, I can tell you right now that Kitchener and Waterloo have some of the best records at developing players - including Tanner Pearson, Adam Scheifele, Kyle Soper, Kyle Platzer, Justin Auger, Nic Hauge, Chase Campbell, Mike Hoffman and more.

So once again, go screw yourself and your deluded sense of bravado

[Cali vairs!]

You want a list here's some people.
PurdIe, bramwell, mcenemy, Murphy, montour, lepore, thiverge, ratchford, blunt, etc.
in the process with: Schaefer, fletcher, evangelista, Gunter, bianchi, rimac and even more.
If you don't see any development in this program then your only a pointstreak watcher. Cali puts their young kids in hagersville to let them get better then pulls them up when their ready. They are one of the better at developing just under the radar. Not saying their the best at it but many people don't look at what they are internally doing

[Caledonia Fan]

If that's how you respond to facts, your opinion isn't really that valid. The list of players is on another thread. Find a team that's developed more than them. Otherwise, back to your childish ways of deflecting the conversation.

Except there are NO Facts that you put. Half the time your numbers are wrong, and you've never compared Caledonia vs anyone else.

As a Midwest fan, I can tell you right now that Kitchener and Waterloo have some of the best records at developing players - including Tanner Pearson, Adam Scheifele, Kyle Soper, Kyle Platzer, Justin Auger, Nic Hauge, Chase Campbell, Mike Hoffman and more.

So once again, go screw yourself and your deluded sense of bravado

How long has Kitchener and Waterloo been in JR-B hockey. Caledonia been back in JR-B hockey for four years. Here's your list


WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
(Regular season | Postseason)

Current stats for players that have previously played for Caledonia Corvairs

NAMESort this column BORNSort this column TEAMSort this column LEAGUESort this column GPSort this column GSort this column ASort this column TPSort this column PIMSort this column

Justin Abraham (D) 1994-03-17 Halton Ravens GMHL 33 15 49 64 99
Jacob Erwin (F) 1995-04-29 Iroquois Falls Eskimos NOJHL 54 26 34 60 24
Jeff Malott (F) 1996-08-07 Brooks Bandits AJHL 46 25 35 60 70
Jordan Peacock (F) 1995-03-30 Burlington Cougars OJHL 52 29 29 58 121
Nathan Gomes (F) 1996-09-23 Burlington Cougars OJHL 52 20 38 58 56
Brandon Montour (D) 1994-04-11 San Diego Gulls AHL 68 12 45 57 42
Mitch Green (F) 1994-00-00 Hagersville Hawks NDJCHL 37 28 25 53 32
Cosimo Fontana (RW) 1994-09-08 Varese Killer Bees Switzerland5 18 38 12 50 28
Justin Graham (F) 1996-02-29 Stratford Cullitons GOJHL 48 17 33 50 76
Zach Van Louwe (C) 1995-05-01 Stratford Cullitons GOJHL 48 18 27 45 79

Fabrizio Ricci (LW) 1995-01-08 Baie-Comeau Drakkar QMJHL 66 19 24 43 76
Brooker Muir (F) 1994-05-31 Niagara Whalers GMHL 26 11 25 36 58
Mathieu Henderson (D) 1996-01-07 Flint Firebirds OHL 68 10 26 36 31
Cameron McConnell (LW) 1997-04-10 Dundas Blues NDJCHL 38 15 20 35 68
Zach Maciel (F) 1995-03-05 Amherstview Jets EBJCHL 36 22 11 33 11
Anton Trublin (C) 1997-02-09 Thorold Blackhawks GOJHL 42 13 19 32 18
Luke Sinclair (F) 1994-06-07 Halton Ravens * GMHL 17 9 17 26 8
Kyler Nixon (D) 1993-04-01 Durham Thundercats WOAA 18 12 12 24 8
Adam Brady (C) 1995-08-06 Lincoln Stars USHL 27 9 15 24 21
Connor Murphy (C) 1996-04-02 Green Bay Gamblers USHL 53 11 12 23 22

Jayme Forslund (D) 1995-04-23 Rayside-Balfour Canadians NOJHL 38 8 14 22 52
Brandon Kolaski (D) 1996-07-09 Glanbrook Rangers NDJCHL 26 4 16 20 47
Nathan Ferris (D) 1995-06-03 Welland Jr. Canadians GOJHL 31 11 8 19 44
Connor Bramwell (F) 1997-09-04 Blainville-Boisbriand Armada QMJHL 45 7 12 19 27
Matthew Schwehr (LW) 1992-08-27 Adrian College |ACHA I| ACHA 26 6 8 14 6
Matt Quilty (C) 1993-03-04 SUNY-Plattsburgh NCAA III 22 5 6 11 0
Austin McEneny (D) 1997-04-10 Québec Remparts QMJHL 48 2 9 11 18
Tyler Lepore (F) 1994-05-24 Morrisville State College NCAA III 23 6 3 9 18
Cody Brown (RW) 1993-06-20 Univ. of Western Ontario CIS 10 5 4 9 2
Clayton Millard (F) 1995-00-00 Hagersville Hawks NDJCHL 36 2 7 9 198

Greg Christmas (D) 1995-02-22 Thorold Blackhawks GOJHL 47 1 8 9 40
Nate Mitton (F) 1992-07-27 Univ. of Ontario Inst. of Tech. CIS 26 2 6 8 12
Daniel Pugliese (F/D) 1996-03-14 Thorold Blackhawks GOJHL 31 2 6 8 134
Mitch Purdie (RW) 1994-02-25 Worcester State Univ. NCAA III 25 2 4 6 18
Erick Delaurentis (RW) 1994-07-09 Ryerson Univ. CIS 13 1 5 6 8
Luke Sinclair (F) 1994-06-07 Söderhamn/Ljusne Division 2 9 1 4 5 10
Spencer Gourlay (F) 1993-06-23 SUNY-Cortland NCAA III 11 2 2 4 32
Chance MacDonald (D) 1995-04-30 Gananoque Islanders * EBJCHL 3 0 4 4 24
Nathan Ferris (D) 1995-06-03 St. Thomas Stars GOJHL 14 0 4 4 22
Cosmo Amore (LW) 1996-06-24 Thorold Blackhawks * GOJHL 17 1 2 3 6

Connor Murphy (C) 1996-04-02 Chicago Steel * JCWC 5 0 2 2 4
Brad Hornby (D) 1992-10-27 Tillsonburg Thunder WOAA 7 0 2 2 42
Nicholas McMullen (D/F) 1993-02-25 Hamilton Steelhawks |Sr.| ACH 9 0 2 2 0
Connor Murphy (C) 1996-04-02 Chicago Steel * USHL 5 1 0 1 4
Jake McLay (D) 1993-07-02 Shallow Lake Crushers WOAA 22 0 1 1 59
Luke Sinclair (F) 1994-06-07 Hofors HC Division 2 0 0 0 0 0
Jayme Forslund (D) 1995-04-23 Laurentian Univ. * CIS 1 0 0 0 0


NAMESort this column BORNSort this column TEAMSort this column LEAGUESort this column GPSort this column GAASort this column SVS%Sort this column

Marcus DelConte (G) 1993-01-29 Stoney Creek Generals ACH 0 - -
Ian Sylves (G) 1994-05-23 Buffalo State College NCAA III 3 0.67 .981
Kevin Entmaa (G) 1994-05-09 Adrian College NCAA III 17 2.12 .926
Colin Furlong (G) 1993-03-24 Wilfrid Laurier Univ. CIS 16 2.79 .921
Brendan Polasek (G) 1994-11-10 Halton Ravens GMHL 23 3.71 .888
Horia Lucaciu (G) 1997-03-14 Tavistock Braves MWJCHL 6 3.07 .884
* = No longer on active roster


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[cpt obvious]

Lest we forget that Stratford beat up on the Nats 7-3 only to be beat down the very next game 7-4...The score means absolutely nothing in playoffs, they won game one.. could be 20-0 or 4-3 ot, a wins a win and a loss is a loss, every hockey player knows this.
I like the article written by Ron? a couple of posts up, "assists were added after the fact..two assists added after the original unassisted call" This is a guy that sees the stats for what they are..skewed, skewed , skewed.
I did make the trip to the game last night(where the hell are the fans?) and will admit the covairs are a very talented team but the Nats at times took the play to them and thats the fact. The Nats goalie didn't have his best game in net either I can say that from watching this team a dozen times this year. I'm sure he will be focused from this point on if history teaches us anything.
As much as I am a western conference supporter...I will say this guys, the Nats will have to play their very best with hopes of a bounce here and there to win this series.
p.s I thought the covairs were going to be a tougher team because of their pims this year, it looked to me that 77 was enticing 21 on the way up ice but quickly decided against it when 21 tossed his gloves off, the result was a one punch ko. 77 looked quite wobbly afterwards but the training staff obviously isnt educated in concussions because he came out 5 mins later. Not with as much bravado mind you. I was happy to see the Nats at least played with an edge, I havent seen that much so far in these playoffs.
Port come into London on Saturday and I'll buy you a drink. Should be 1000+ fans there.

[Beehive]

This is the guy who runs the OJHL Forum's take on the game tonight. He seems to know his stuff.

Ron
(Login fillibuster)
Re: Let's get physical!No score for this post April 28 2016, 10:58 PM

Wild and woolly is the norm in Caledonia and tonight was no exception as the Pro-Fit Corvairs destroyed the London Nationals 9-3. It was a close game for thirteen plus minutes with the visitors coming out skating and hitting hard but three goals in a span of less than two minutes late in the first period turned the tide to stay in favour of the home side.

Leading scorer Kyle Robinson scooted in free while playing shorthanded to put the Nationals one up at 6.29 and the clubs traded chances and hits until Tyler Hill's close in wrist shot tied things up at 13.26. Two more followed in quick succession and on the second Caledonia goal it was Hill again storming down the left side feeding Mitchell Fitzmorris in front and then Corey Pawley tipped one in right on the edge of the crease and before you could say Kyle Robinson it's 3-1. The Corvairs would add one more with fifteen seconds left in the period as Fitzmorris and Todd Ratchford broke in free and the big blueliner finished it off. The London players left the ice wondering what had hit them, down 4-1.

The second period was pretty much one way traffic with the Nationals managing only three shots on Mark Sinclair but the only goal would come from Blake Luscombe with just over three minutes gone and it was a weird one as he shot the puck in, scooted over to the left side picked up his own pass, whipped around and from a bad angle beat Connor Hughes. Two assists were added after the fact to the originally announced 'unassisted' goal. Late in the period London lost defenceman Callum Ruddock on a checking-from-behind call. 5-1 after two to the defending champs.

The Nationals really got 'behind the eight ball' quickly in the third as another blueliner, this time Sam Harris took exception, quite rightly, to being double teamed by two Corvairs with their sticks up behind his own net. Unfortunately for his team he was assessed two for high-sticking, two for roughing plus instigator and aggressor penalties as he sucker-punched Corey Pawley. The home side got off Scot-free in the scuffle except for a two minute minor to Matt McCartney. Luscombe got his second on the resulting powerplay but then it seemed that the officials were intent to make calls on the home side if they as much as looked sideways at the opposition and the powerplay was pretty much negated and Alex Cimino managed to pull one back for the Nationals with a soft long shot. Chadd Bauman made it 7-2 Caledonia as he split the defence while playing four on four. Two assists were added after the fact. That would be it for Hughes as Zack Weir replaced him in the London net. Jake Brown was all alone and scored on Weir's short side on a powerplay as the ice was beginning to look tilted. The Corvairs lost focus soon after allowing a goal by Kevin Madden on a powerplay but they would score the last one on a delayed penalty with a goal from Fitzmorris who was offered little opposition from a badly beaten side. Final 9-3 Caledonia.

Luscombe, Fitzmorris and Matt Hore (all assists) ended the night with four points but once again it did not seem to matter too much what line was on the ice for the side as they wore down the opposition with their aggressive play whereas the Nationals tried to do the same thing but it backfired on them.

Based on this game number one it would be difficult to predict anything but another four-game sweep for this talented assemblage of almost all veteran players.

I have followed Ron's posts over on the Tigerpaws board ever since my son was a Kilty B. He has always been a stand-up guy who tells it like it is. More importantly he is a real gentleman who is quick to give credit to deserving players and does not get caught up in controversial issues by taking the high road. As usual Ron your game report was top shelf!
Port.....I really don't think that it matters which type of game the Nationals throw at the Corvairs it is unlikely to change the outcome. I say that we (the so-called detractors) should just accept gracefully the fact (given the situation) that Caledonia will win their third consecutive Sutherland Cup . Hopefully when the new rules come into play next season they will level the one-sided ledger. I"ll be watching closely from Myrtle Beach.

[Cali vairs!]

Haha. Hughes is a good goalie but terrible 5 hole and bad high glove. Also don't compare Cali to Stratford. Cali is one of the most consistent teams I've seen. Segs was laughing after he got hit. Regular season Harris would've got laid the f**k out. Message was pretty clear by bully. Don't do anything stupid! Apparently the nats didn't get the same message. They clean up the penalties, actually skate for the whole game, and Hughes fixes his problems. Could be a decent series.

[Cali vairs!]

I think Hughes was so good against other teams because he doesn't get shots from in close with bigger defence in front of him. Cali cycles the puck and breaks down the defence. Resulting in shots in close where they can pick apart a goalie. Gonna be a tough series for London defenders. I also think Goldilocks got 3 games

[cpt obvious]

Haha. Hughes is a good goalie but terrible 5 hole and bad high glove. Also don't compare Cali to Stratford. Cali is one of the most consistent teams I've seen. Segs was laughing after he got hit. Regular season Harris would've got laid the f**k out. Message was pretty clear by bully. Don't do anything stupid! Apparently the nats didn't get the same message. They clean up the penalties, actually skate for the whole game, and Hughes fixes his problems. Could be a decent series.

I was standing in that end when it happened "segs" wasnt laughing he was knocked out, fell down when he tried to get back up, teamates had to help him up...call a spade a spade. And 21 for Nats is a killer, regular season or playoffs. Your "segs" wouldnt stand a chance..guaranteed.

[cpt obvious]

I think Hughes was so good against other teams because he doesn't get shots from in close with bigger defence in front of him. Cali cycles the puck and breaks down the defence. Resulting in shots in close where they can pick apart a goalie. Gonna be a tough series for London defenders. I also think Goldilocks got 3 games

Nats goalie had an 'off night'..covairs did nothing any other team doesnt do.. thats ridiculous to say no other team gets shots from in close...smoke another one

[GojhlFan74]

Bully gave our team the red light for any sh**, it was 5-1 we didn't need a fight. You don't think it was hard for segs not to fight? He told Harris he would at the end of the 2nd, then opening face off of the 3rd Harris asked and segs said no.. If you were actually at the game you probably could of heard bully yelling "SEGS NO" then segs hit him behind the net and Harris grabbed him dropped his gloves and threw 1 punch, Seguin completely goated him into a 9 minute Pim, and 3 game suspension.. Completely killing any hope for a 3rd period comeback.. Talk about a real leader.. And if you think segs was actually even hurt by that, we might have to change your name to cpt oblivious.

[Caledonia Fan]

We call the line of Seguin, McCartney and Punkari sometimes Volpe
The Viking Line. They take no prisoners. Plus they look like Vikings.

[BillyTheKid]

Bully gave our team the red light for any sh**, it was 5-1 we didn't need a fight. You don't think it was hard for segs not to fight? He told Harris he would at the end of the 2nd, then opening face off of the 3rd Harris asked and segs said no.. If you were actually at the game you probably could of heard bully yelling "SEGS NO" then segs hit him behind the net and Harris grabbed him dropped his gloves and threw 1 punch, Seguin completely goated him into a 9 minute Pim, and 3 game suspension.. Completely killing any hope for a 3rd period comeback.. Talk about a real leader.. And if you think segs was actually even hurt by that, we might have to change your name to cpt oblivious.

Lol an equipment manager posting on the fourm gotta love it...

[Cali vairs!]

Cpt listen to what painter said. I was ther too. It's about being didcipline now. Cali does do stuff different. All we do is cycle the puck and break down te D then get a great opportunity to score. Segs is one of the toughest guys in the league. All I've seen him do this year is beat the sh** out of people. You can keep your beast Harris. He's gone for the rest of the season anyway.

[15timechamps]

Sorry painter. Harris just got his gloves off quicker then seguin. And yes he was out for a couple of seconds watch the video it was 4 inches from my face. Standing with rocketgirl and oha officials. He was out.

[Cali vairs!]

Quicker getting his gloves off? Segs didn't even get them off. If it was 4 inches In front of your face you should've seen that he wasn't going to fight. He just hit Harris and then goldilocks got mad

[fanofgame]

First of all Seguin did what Seguin always does he goads people in and unless they are 15yrs old he has his gloves sewn on. Countless times I have seen him do this to guys and sadly Harris fell for it hook line and sinker. The one sided reffing was pretty evident right from the Dorion Roughing call. How a guy gets tripped then cross checked in the face and is called for roughing all the while not touching the other guy is way beyond me. Cali's game is run you down and take as many cheap shots as they can get away with, when someone stands up to them they turtle like the girl scouts they truly are.

[Cali vairs!]

Seguin only beats up 15 year olds? Please provide an example because I've seen him fight a lot of people this year and none have been 15 that I remember? Cheap shots? That was all London last night. All they did was take penalties. The Dorian penalty was because he started it and then got decked. I still disagree with the call. Refs weren't biased at all. What other penalty was called that wasn't deserved either way? Cali turtles? Hahaha obviously that was your first game seeing them. Should've seen a game against niagra falls. We had like 4 fights and we never backed down. You want a fight in the suthy final. Are you stupid? At this point there shouldn't be any of that. All about whos the better team. And tonight it was easily Cali.

[fanofgame]

I am not saying there should be a fight what I am saying is when Seguin is asking Harris to go all the way down the ice then he and I believe it was Pawley are on Harris at the end boards chripping goading doing what they do best, yes he wussed out as usual. I won't deny a smart play for sure. It cost London one of its better D and I have no doubts they will set thier sites on another strong D on Saturday. I have seen Cali play before and I have seen the head checks they throw and get away with. Tell me please how Dorion started that incident? he was tripped he was cross checked in the face....

[fanofgame]

I will also concede that Cali out worked and out played London last night there is no question that the wind was taken out of the London side with the 4 quick goals. I have no problem giving credit where credit is due. but for those of you on here calling London GOONS maybe take a gander at the tape or any other game Cali has played right from day 1 it is their MO.

[RocketGirl]

Sorry painter. Harris just got his gloves off quicker then seguin. And yes he was out for a couple of seconds watch the video it was 4 inches from my face. Standing with rocketgirl and oha officials. He was out.

But I don't know what I'm watching, so you can't rely on me as an eye witness.

[Sunnydays]

Lol you people crack me up. Caledonia could literally forfeit a game or something and you would still find an issue with how the game went... When you're as good as we are you get used to hearing the sh** come out of others mouths, haters are going to hate no matter what happens, we win 9-3 we get chirped for being too good, we only win 2-1 or 1-0 and we get chirped for not being good enough. When people have a hatred for something they only see the bad you can't do any right. As for that cpt guy.... Are you sure you were watching the right game?? In what world was Seguin knocked out... Must have had that flag in front of your face for that one


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