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Because they can... Why does it bother you? No rules were broken. All the whining makes the league look like a circus. A team does nothing wrong, and half the league's down their throats, including the leagues super-fan.RocketGirl wrote:Stratford has won numerous back to back Sutherland Cups, Cambridge has also won back to back Sutherlands, and I haven't seen them go to this extreme to try and get 3 in a row, so why is it now all of sudden this important?
Rules are being broken Port..recruitment rules..compensation rules...and as Norwich found out...the OHA will find out and will come down on the covairs..and at that point their back to back to possibly back will be tarnished forever. It only takes one pissed off kid that didnt get as much money as the next player. Its only a matter of time.Port hockey1 wrote:Because they can... Why does it bother you? No rules were broken. All the whining makes the league look like a circus. A team does nothing wrong, and half the league's down their throats, including the leagues super-fan.RocketGirl wrote:Stratford has won numerous back to back Sutherland Cups, Cambridge has also won back to back Sutherlands, and I haven't seen them go to this extreme to try and get 3 in a row, so why is it now all of sudden this important?
Where are these dollar figures coming from anyways? It's well known that many teams in the league pays kids crazy g's to play for them. Why the double standard?cpt obvious wrote:I dont think the argument is whether or not a team can go out and recruit 20 yr olds to come and play for the organization. If a team is successful in doing so then kudos to them. Thats what separates good executives from bad. The argument is how the covairs have recruited...by giving these players thousands and some tens of thousands of dollars to come play for the team...in the NCAA the program would be suspended for years for such recruitment tactics. Thats the unfair part, the ownership group is spending our cigarette money to recruit fringe ohl players. If they ran a solid program and players were going there for the experience, different story but the players arent going there because the covairs are a great organization..theyre going there because they are getting envelopes of cash left in their stalls for no apparent reason. Thats the truth of the matter. If Pelham wanted to spend that money then they would become the destination of choice..not because they know how to make a sound hockey decision or not. As someone mentioned it is the same in the Jr.C loop with Dorchester, fringe JrB players go there for the reward not experience or legacy.
And as Dorchester found out against Essex...maybe the covairs find out this season....money doesnt buy championships...I guess we will all find out soon enough.
Again, where's the proof? Because from what I've heard these kids jump at the chance to play for the classiest organization in the GOJHL. Many teams break these rules, why the double standard?cpt obvious wrote:Rules are being broken Port..recruitment rules..compensation rules...and as Norwich found out...the OHA will find out and will come down on the covairs..and at that point their back to back to possibly back will be tarnished forever. It only takes one pissed off kid that didnt get as much money as the next player. Its only a matter of time.Port hockey1 wrote:Because they can... Why does it bother you? No rules were broken. All the whining makes the league look like a circus. A team does nothing wrong, and half the league's down their throats, including the leagues super-fan.RocketGirl wrote:Stratford has won numerous back to back Sutherland Cups, Cambridge has also won back to back Sutherlands, and I haven't seen them go to this extreme to try and get 3 in a row, so why is it now all of sudden this important?
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. #62 received 10k to come and his car payments for the year..fact. This is known because of the cast offs that are playing on different teams, these players are telling their current teams the truth, thats why I said its only a matter of time before the OHA lowers the boom. Another fact, cast off player told his gm that he received an envelope in his stall with 1200 in it for reasons unannounced to him..just there for him to take home...You say the owner is generous and treats the players well..does he take them all on a cruise like the Leamington owner does? i see their players put it on social media year in year out...Thats treating your players well, not giving them money to show up, that just causes issues in the room. It will come out soon enough and what a story when it does..Cali vairs! wrote:Cpt obvious they are not paying the players to play. That is true. Coming from somebody who knows how they recruit. They are very smart about it.
The other reason some players come is the rewards they do get. Kenny is an amazing owner who cares about these players. He takes them out to great places all the time. He is likely the most generous owner (has the money to).
Being smart about is paying in cash not cheques...until one player takes his envelope to the OHA office..then its not smart at all.Cali vairs! wrote:You do realize what I said right. "Their smart about it". You can never say they pay their players to play. That's the key thing. Their is ways to get around paying them to play. I might off not of been clear on that. I won't go into details about it though
Apparently you have no idea. WHERE'S THE PROOF???cpt obvious wrote:You clearly don't know what you are talking about. #62 received 10k to come and his car payments for the year..fact. This is known because of the cast offs that are playing on different teams, these players are telling their current teams the truth, thats why I said its only a matter of time before the OHA lowers the boom. Another fact, cast off player told his gm that he received an envelope in his stall with 1200 in it for reasons unannounced to him..just there for him to take home...You say the owner is generous and treats the players well..does he take them all on a cruise like the Leamington owner does? i see their players put it on social media year in year out...Thats treating your players well, not giving them money to show up, that just causes issues in the room. It will come out soon enough and what a story when it does..Cali vairs! wrote:Cpt obvious they are not paying the players to play. That is true. Coming from somebody who knows how they recruit. They are very smart about it.
The other reason some players come is the rewards they do get. Kenny is an amazing owner who cares about these players. He takes them out to great places all the time. He is likely the most generous owner (has the money to).
Port you have no idea, so stop saying wheres the proof.
Sorry Cpt... But if you believe everything former 19-20 year old players say... I've got some land to sell you in Florida. 
cpt obvious wrote:Being smart about is paying in cash not cheques...until one player takes his envelope to the OHA office..then its not smart at all.Cali vairs! wrote:You do realize what I said right. "Their smart about it". You can never say they pay their players to play. That's the key thing. Their is ways to get around paying them to play. I might off not of been clear on that. I won't go into details about it though
There are rules regarding how much compensation you are allowed to give your players..covairs are not following the rules. It will come out.
I had no idea going after a 97 who struggled in a dozen NAHL games is the same thing as a bunch of 95s with a ton of OHL experience.Port hockey1 wrote:This is the first and only time Caledonia has loaded up like this. We all know it's to try and set league history.
Funny how nobody cares about the Flyers landing Manchurek, or Waterloo getting C.Jean... Just two examples. It's because Caledonia found several great players. And most of them have played in the GOJHL at some point in the past.
The double standards are comical. So are yours... For someone who doesn't care... You sure took your shots at them on the OJHL forum.
What Caledonia has done is completely legal. What kind of journalist makes stuff up?
I didn't look the kid up, was told he was a 95. I'd rather smoke some weed then drink that poison people call alcohol!Qwerty wrote:You know what makes sense, ILuv... the Bob Marley avatar that Port has chosen to use to illustrate his forum profile. That somebody's smoking a lot of weed while posting on this forum is the only way you can explain some of the non-sense. The only way you could compare Waterloo (Jean) or Leamington (Manchurek) to Caledonia (Pawley, Fitzmorris, Hill, Maksimovitch, McCartney, Bauman, Zotti, Seguin, D Brown) would be if you're high.
Light up another one, brah
